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Three quick questions with the University of Southern Mississippi

For Three Quick Questions, I send the same three questions to admission representatives at colleges all over the country, and then I hope to hear back from them. The three questions are meant to probe some of the things that make a school unique but that aren’t easily captured as a stat to go in a book or web search.

Today’s response is from Campbell Cave, Admissions Recruiter at the University of Southern Mississippi in Hattiesburg, Mississippi.


What is a course, tradition, program or event that is unique to the University of Southern Mississippi?

A unique traditions that we have at Southern Miss is “Painting of the Eagle Walk.” Eagle Walk is an area under our football stadium where the football team walks under 2 hours before every home football game. At the beginning of the year, freshman students get to paint the Eagle Walk gold and leave a hand print on wall of the walk. It is a very fun tradition. Here is a picture of what painting of the Eagle Walk looks like.

Naturally every college wants to recruit the perfect student--high grades, high test scores, involved in their community, leadership...everything. But what kinds of imperfect students tend to flourish at Southern Miss?

At Southern Miss, I would say that any student can flourish. Whether they have a 36 on the ACT or struggles taking tests, they have the opportunity to succeed. At Southern Miss we have numerous different student support offices ranging from offices for first generation students to offices to help students land internships. Our main goal at Southern Miss is for all of our students to flourish no matter their background.

When people come to visit Hattiesburg, what's a place off campus that you recommend they check out while they're there?

When people come to Hattiesburg, I recommend that they visit 2 places. One is a restaurant called Keg and Barrell. It is a locally owned restaurant with an incredible atmosphere and a range of food (burgers, pizzas, sandwiches, thai chicken wraps, etc). The other place I recommend people visit is The Lucky Rabbit, which is a very unique vintage market that is open on Saturdays and Sundays in downtown Hattiesburg. It is honestly hard to describe the place due to how unique it is, but here is a picture to help grasp what it is. Also, their Instagram is @theluckyrabbit if you wanted to check them out.



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Colleges don't give you money

Tomorrow, December 1, the newly revised FAFSA will open up online, several months later than it usually does.

I haven’t seen the updated website yet, so I don’t have any specific advice about the FAFSA. But I do have some big-picture advice about affordability and paying for college. And that advice comes down that one reminder: colleges don’t give you money.

Pretty much everyone, myself included, goes along with the idea that financial aid is money that the colleges are giving away. We use the verbs “give” and “offer” all the time. If the sticker price is $50,000 and the price that you’ll be charged is $25,000, then they “gave” you $25,000 in aid. You might contact them to see if they can “offer” you more. And that $25,000 is real. It’s money that you’re not paying, and it makes a huge difference in your life. But it’s not money that they’re giving you, it’s just a discount on what they charge you.

Compare it to buying clothes. Imagine you go to Macy’s to buy some jeans. The price tag says $100, but they’re on sale for 20% off. So you pay $80. That $20 difference is real—it’s money that you can spend on something else. But it would sound kind of silly if Macy’s told you they were “giving” you $20 to buy the jeans. It would sound ridiculous if Macy’s added up all the discounts they gave over a year and claimed they “provided” Americans with millions of dollars in aid. That sale price isn’t money they’re giving away, it’s a discount on what they’re bringing in. It’s a slight distinction, but it can have a huge effect.

Unlike Macy’s, colleges do this all the time. They have a sticker price, and they offer you a discount, and then they frame it as money they’re offering you. They can have you focus on how generous their offer is instead of how much money you and your family are paying. You don’t have to play along if you don’t want. You can stay laser-focused on your cost, not their generosity.

And then there’s debt. When colleges offer you loans to help you pay for college, this counts as aid. That actually makes sense, because if you’re able to afford the college by taking the loan and paying over years when you wouldn’t be able to afford it in cash, then they are indeed aiding you in your ability to go to college. But don’t let that aid get too caught up in the language of “offer” and “giving.” It’s money you’re spending. You’re spending it over time, not all at once, and that’s really helpful. But you’re spending it, and taking a risk doing so. Give your future self credit for that money, not the college, because it’s your future self that is actually paying.

This advice is about mindset and perspective. By reminding you that colleges don’t actually give you money, I’m hoping to help you make more rational decisions and have healthier emotions. So when you get your financial aid offers in the coming months, keep a few things in mind:

Stay completely focused on the cost to you, not what the college is offering. If you read a financial aid offer and still aren’t sure what your cost is (it happens often), get in touch and ask them to explain the offer so that you can understand what your cost it. While you’re at it, ask them what the average price increase is every year.

The sticker price is completely made up and arbitrary. On average, only about 15% of students pay the full price. There are lots of factors that go into the sticker price, but one strategy that some schools use is setting a higher sticker price so that they can advertise how generous they are with aid. It’s like Macy’s changing the price of those jeans from $100 to $110 so they can still get $80 but also advertise a $30 discount instead of $20.

The price that you pay is your price, and almost every student has a different price. How much of a discount schools offer is determined based on your family finances and how much you can afford, your perceived long-term value to the school, and how many discounts they’re offering other people. Your perceived long-term value to the school is complex. How much a school perceives your value to them may take into account how likely they think you are to graduate; how much time and talent you may contribute to the campus while you’re there; athletic, artistic, or other talents you have that can be useful to a school team or program; how likely you and your family are to donate to the school in the long term; and what academic and/or social gaps the school is experiencing that you can help fill. When you hear “merit,” you probably think of how well you performed in high school. When the colleges say “merit,” they’re probably thinking about your long-term value to them. They aren’t the same. There’s no way for you to know your perceived long-term value to a school ahead of applying for admission and financial aid.

If you’re trying to estimate your cost at a particular school, skip over their stats about average aid offered or percentage of students who receive aid. Don’t get caught up in the “offers.” Look at two numbers: the average net price and the average indebtedness at graduation. Use those as your reference points. If your family has normal finances, that is likely to be around the price they ask of you. If your family has less money than average, expect a lower price. If your family has more money than normal, expect a higher price.

Pay attention to debt. If you graduate college within five years and don’t take on too much debt, then the debt is probably worth it. The average lifetime earnings of college graduates is much higher than that of people who don’t have a college degree. If you already feel like there are obstacles that may keep you from graduating, then you should be very hesitant to take on student debt. You should also be hesitant of taking on more than $30,000 debt total over the four-five years you’re a student. I’d like to say that you can adjust a reasonable debt load based on your career path. Maybe higher debt is fine if you’re going into computer engineering, and you should be more frugal if you’re going into early childhood education. But the truth is that you don’t know what job you’ll have in your first few years after graduation, or how much it will pay.

Talk to your family about money, as soon as possible. You should know your line between “affordable” and “not affordable” before you apply to schools, and definitely before you start getting financial aid offers.

Never skip applying to a college that you think is a good fit because you think you can’t afford it. Wait until you know your cost, and then decide if you can afford it. People are surprised by their financial aid offers, in both directions, all the time. Maybe you’re right and you can’t afford it, but make them tell you so.

Assume that you’re going to attend the least expensive school that accepts you. If you decide to go to a school that is more expensive than other schools that accept you, you should be able to explain—to yourself and others—why. “Because it’s a better school” or “because it’s a better fit” aren’t good enough. Be able to explain why you think it’s a better school for you and why you think the extra cost is worth it.

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Three quick questions with University of West Georgia

For Three Quick Questions, I send the same three questions to admission representatives at colleges all over the country, and then I hope to hear back from them. The three questions are meant to probe some of the things that make a school unique but that aren’t easily captured as a stat to go in a book or web search.

Today’s response is from Michaela Wright, Admissions Representative at the University of West Georgia in Carrollton, Georgia.

What is a course, tradition, program or event that is unique to the University of West Georgia?

I would say our Welcome Back Blasts. It's one of our first events of the school year and it's open to the entire student body. It goes through the first week into the second week of classes in the fall. It's a great way for students to have fun with outdoor activities like Screen on the Green, which is an outdoor movie night, carnival rides, concerts, and free food and swag. As a student, I loved going to the Welcome Back Blast as it was a great way to relax after classes and catch up with friends and even help create friend groups for our freshman students. 

Naturally every college wants to recruit the perfect student--high grades, high test scores, involved in their community, leadership...everything. But what kinds of imperfect students tend to flourish at UWG?

Students who tend to be more introverted and even have more niche interests flourish on our campus. Not every student, me included, did much with extracurricular activities at high school, mostly because it was hard to find something of interest as clubs and organizations tend to favor a more broad student interest. I personally joined an organization called Anime Otaku Incorporated or AOI. At AOI, I was able to again build a great friend group, but also gain leadership and organizational experience as I became a secretary and president later in my college career. I've seen many very introverted and socially anxious people get out of their shells and become very confident people because they are able to find a place to be themselves and feel comfortable with who they are. This has not only translated socially, but academically and helped with a few members in their careers as well.

When people come to visit Carrollton, what's a place off campus that you recommend they check out while they're there?

Adamson Square in historically downtown Carrollton is one of my favorite places. There are all local shops and restaurants and a great place to hang out and study outside of classes. I highly recommend Chip's Burgers and the Irish Bread Pub for eateries. The Butter'd Udder for some ice cream and Gallery Row for a coffee. The Underground Bookstore is a very nice and aesthetically pleasing bookshop with tons of great finds. Lastly, my favorite shop is The Vinyl Frontier which is a vinyl shop that caters to all genres and budgets, as a vinyl collector this was a huge plus for me for staying in Carrollton. 

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Three quick questions with Marquette University

For Three Quick Questions, I send the same three questions to admission representatives at colleges all over the country, and then I hope to hear back from them. The three questions are meant to probe some of the things that make a school unique but that aren’t easily captured as a stat to go in a book or web search.

Today’s response is from Nicole Gasiorowski, Admissions Counselor at Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

What is a course, tradition, program or event that is unique to Marquette University?

Each year, the campus community – students, faculty, staff, alumni, family, and friends – comes together to celebrate National Marquette Day! This annual tradition, now in its third decade, unites the Marquette nation together in pride and spirit to commemorate the values of the University: Catholic and Jesuit, dedicated to service, and being individuals for and with others. The Marquette community gathers in Milwaukee and around the world to cheer on our Men’s Basketball team at Fiserv Forum and invites everyone to join in a weekend of festivities to celebrate Marquette! 

Naturally every college wants to recruit the perfect student--high grades, high test scores, involved in their community, leadership...everything. But what kinds of imperfect students tend to flourish at Marquette?

Here at Marquette, undecided is our most popular major. In fact, we have found that few students are truly undecided. They have many interests about what they wish to pursue in college, which is why we prefer to say “multi-interested.” Marquette has more than 80 majors and 79 minors, and we will help you choose a major or minor combination that matches your interests and skills. While you are exploring different areas of studies, you will be taking the Marquette Core Curriculum, which is designed to teach you how to think, say what you mean, and say it well. Taking the Core early in your career at Marquette allows extra flexibility to discover a major you didn’t know existed and might be interested in studying! 

When people come to visit Milwaukee, what's a place off campus that you recommend they check out while they're there?

Milwaukee is known as the City of Festivals, so I recommend checking out Henry Meir Festival Park right on the lakefront. There are hundreds of festivals year-round, from Summerfest, the world’s largest music festival, to ethnic fests and food fests. There is truly a fest for everyone!  


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Three quick questions with Emory University

For Three Quick Questions, I send the same three questions to admission representatives at colleges all over the country, and then I hope to hear back from them. The three questions are meant to probe some of the things that make a school unique but that aren’t easily captured as a stat to go in a book or web search.

Today’s response is from Katie Phenix, Admission Advisor at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia.

What is a course, tradition, program or event that is unique to Emory University?

Emory is a high-level research institution, but also follows liberal arts curriculum. This encourages students to explore academic areas outside of their major, along with giving students access to discussion based classes where they can truly become immersed in the content they are learning. Emory Univeristy is also one of the most diverse universities in the US, with over 80 languages spoken and all major religions represented on campus. 

Naturally every college wants to recruit the perfect student--high grades, high test scores, involved in their community, leadership...everything. But what kinds of imperfect students tend to flourish at Emory?

During the application evaluation process, Emory University looks at students holistically, meaning we take into account not just grades, test scores, extracurriculars, and community involvement. We also evaluate the community the student comes from and the resources that may or may not have been available to them throughout their life. We look for uniqueness and authenticity.

When people come to visit Atlanta, what's a place off campus that you recommend they check out while they're there?

Ponce City Market and the Atlanta Beltline are places I always recommend! If you are a Braves fan, the Battery is always cool!   


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Three quick questions with Southern Methodist University

For Three Quick Questions, I send the same three questions to admission representatives at colleges all over the country, and then I hope to hear back from them. The three questions are meant to probe some of the things that make a school unique but that aren’t easily captured as a stat to go in a book or web search.

Today’s response is from Brenda Del Rio, Admissions Counselor at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas. (And today’s response is very special to me, because I spent two years at SMU getting my Master’s Degree. Pony Up!)

What is a course, tradition, program or event that is unique to Southern Methodist University?

While SMU is a very tradition heavy campus, one of our most unique ones is Boulevarding! Instead of tailgating, we Boulevard. It’s even greater considering that it’s never students alone celebrating their team, it truly is a Dallas wide community effort.

Naturally every college wants to recruit the perfect student--high grades, high test scores, involved in their community, leadership...everything. But what kinds of imperfect students tend to flourish at SMU?

What makes SMU really unique is that aside from drawing in students who know what they want to do with their life from a very young age, we also draw in students who are completely clueless about what they want to do, and we love that! Because our curriculum is flexible and 3 in 5 of our students double or triple major, it allows for some unique opportunities for students to marry different areas of study to create the education experience they are truly for. Often times, students who are unsure about their future don’t want to commit to just one area of study, so those that are interested in multiple ones really tend to flourish here.

When people come to visit Dallas, what's a place off campus that you recommend they check out while they're there?

There’s so many places, this question is hard! But the M-Line trolley is a lot of fun! It’s free to use and takes guests around the Klyde Warren Park area (also a lot of fun) and Uptown Dallas, which is right down the street from us.


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Common Data Sets

I wish more high school students knew about the Common Data Set. The Common Data Set (CDS) is a form that many—though not all—colleges use to report information about the college. It’s where the College Board, US News, and Peterson’s all get their data about colleges. When you’re ready to do a “deep dive” to get to know a college, their CDS is one place where you look. How do you find a school’s CDS? Just Google “[name of college] common data set.” For example, here is a link to Austin College’s 2022-2023 CDS.

Most high school students looking for data are going straight to section C: “FIRST-TIME, FIRST-YEAR ADMISSION.” Find out exactly how many people applied to the college, how many were accepted, and how many enrolled. Find out if they have a waiting list, how many people were offered wait list spots, and how many of the people on the list were ultimately admitted. Wondering how many foreign language credits they require? How many science credits they recommend? You can find out in section C of the CDS. Does the school consider demonstrated interest? How about legacy status? or first-get status? They’ll tell you in the CDS. They’ll also tell you how important things like class rank and interviews are to them. You can find out what their SAT and ACT midranges were to compare your scores (if you have them). Pretty much any piece of information you would like to know about their admission process is in the CDS.

But if you only look at section C for admission data, there’s a lot you’ll miss that may be important to you.

Section B: ENROLLMENT AND PERSISTENCE. This section tells you how many students there are, broken down by gender, ethnicity, and type of degree. It will tell you what their graduation has has been over four, five, and six years.

Section E: ACADEMIC OFFERINGS AND POLICIES. Here’s where you find out if the college offers double majors, study abroad, internships, and student-designed majors, and other programs. It will also tell you if there are subjects where all students must take at least one class.

Section F: STUDENT LIFE. This section tells you what kinds of housing are available on campus (like coed housing, special housing for the disabled, theme housing), what percentage of students are in sororities or fraternities, what percentage of students live off campus, if the school offers ROTC, and what kinds of clubs and organizations are on campus.

Section G: ANNUAL EXPENSES. Tuition, fees, and living costs are found here. Notice there’s a place for schools to check if the costs are not the same for each year. For example, Austin College’s tuition and fees are $475 more for first-year students than returning students.

Section H: FINANCIAL AID. You can look through the financial aid section, and I encourage you to. But remember that it tells you nothing about the financial aid that you will receive. You only find that out once you apply and are accepted.

Section G: INSTRUCTIONAL FACULTY AND CLASS SIZE. Here you can find out how many faculty members they have, how many of them belong to minority groups, and how many of them have doctorate degrees. You can see what their overall student faculty ratio is, and see a sampling of class sizes.

Section J: DISCIPLINES. This section tells you what majors they offer, and what percentage of students graduate with degrees in the majors. So you can see what’s offered and also what’s popular.

That’s a lot of detailed information.

A few things to remember. Not all colleges participate in the Common Data Set , and not all of them answer each question. So while it’s very standardized, it’s not perfectly standardized. Also, different schools publish their CDS in different ways. Most have it as a downloadable PDF. Some a downloadable Excel file. And some have it formatted into their web site and not as a downloadable file at all. But you’ll still get plenty of information from any CDS you can find.

Combing through the CDS of every school you’re looking at might be too time-consuming. It’s fine to begin with each sites like BigFuture, Forbes, US News, and the Fiske Guide. But once you’re seriously considering a school—once it’s in your top 15 or 20—then you should take the time to look through the CDS. What all does the document tell you about the school? What questions does it leave unanswered? These are really important, and they’re (usually)waiting right there for you online.

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What's changed since Covid?

Last week I had a lovely time talking with a local PTO about college admission. I was specifically asked to talk about how the admission process has changed since Covid. That’s a great question, and I talked about three changes that I’ve seen in my own small practice over the past few years. From everything I’ve read about nationwide trends, my experience seems to be pretty typical of admission for most people.

So what’s different?

1. I talk about testing a lot less.

To be clear: All of my clients have taken at lease one SAT (usually administered at school during the school day). Some take it more than once, and some have also taken the ACT. Most of them are choosing to submit test scores in their applications. Testing has not disappeared.

And around 4% of colleges require test scores—MIT is a notable example. So please carefully check the policies of any school you’re thinking of applying to. Most schools who are going to announce any changes to their testing policy will do so this summer, so check again in the fall.

But many schools that relaxed their testing requirements for Covid have decided to stay permanently test optional, and some are going test blind and not looking at test scores even if you have them—the University of California system is a notable example of this trend.

Testing is still a part of the application, it’s just not the stressor it was a few years ago. Almost everyone takes the test once or twice, accepts their scores for what they are, and then moves on. It’s been two years since I’ve had any kind of “testing strategy” conversation. Once or twice I’ve spent a few minutes talking with a client about whether I recommend they re-test. Once or twice I’ve chatted about the pros and cons of test prep. I’ve had a single conversation this year about whether a test scores is “good,” or “good enough.” And a quick email about whether or not to report scores. That’s it. Probably a 90% decrease in time spent thinking about, talking about, and writing about standardized tests.

(The most common test-related question I’ve had so far this spring is about whether certain colleges prefer the SAT or ACT. The students admit that colleges say that they don’t have a preference, but wonder if they really do have a preference. They do not have a preference. Colleges are very used to both ACT and SAT scores.)

In the big picture, I think this de-emphasis on testing is a really great thing. Of all the things you do to make a stronger college application, standardized tests have the shortest longevity. Better grades in high school, a stronger essay, more connection with your community, more activity out in the world—all of these things are a better use of your time in the long run than getting high SAT/ACT scores. So I’m fine with this development, especially for otherwise bright and promising students who just don’t do as well at timed, high-pressure, multiple-choice exams.

I also acknowledge that the de-emphasis on testing can be frustrating for students who had hoped to make their test scores the centerpiece of their application. You can still report your scores, of course. And really high scores are never going to be a hindrance to your application. But students should be a lot less confident on their acceptance to colleges based solely on high test scores than they could a few years ago—and they shouldn’t have been over-confident a few years ago.

2. The whole process has moved up by about two months.

My first few years doing this, December was really busy for me. Clients were finishing up applications for Regular Decision deadlines in early January. There were lots of questions, lots of last-minute changes to their college list, and quite a bit of last-minute edits to essays. Then I would have little to do in January and February, wondering if I would even be able to continue doing this work since nobody was inquiring about my services. But a little later, mostly in the week before Spring Break and the week after, calls and emails would start coming in, and I had close to a full roster by May.

The past two years, that whole cycle has been accelerated by two months. October has been really stressful, and applications have been largely finished by November 1. Almost everyone I work with has applied early—whether through Early Decision, Early Action, or just turning a regular application in early—to at least one school. Many, though not all, had at least one acceptance by mid-December and didn’t submit any more applications. Even the ones who sent January applications were still pretty much done early, though, since they had already finished things up for a November deadline. December has been pleasantly slow.

Just as things are wrapping up a few months earlier than before, things are beginning earlier. I almost always only begin working with students in their junior year, and March and April used to be when I brought most people on board. Now, I’m getting calls and emails in the first half of 11th grade. I had about half of my current juniors by the end of December, and by Spring Break this year I was turning people away because I have all the clients I need. January and February are no longer quiet, but now really busy.

I don’t know to what extent this earlier schedule is a national trend. It could easily be that I’m getting client inquiries earlier just because I’ve been doing this a bit longer and am more established. But I know that early applications are definitely on the rise, so I suspect that the timing shift is bigger than just my small sample.

3. There’s no “normal” number of applications any more.

I used to tell students that ideally they will be applying to four to eight schools, and that most apply to eight to twelve. I still talk about the four-to-eight goal, but there’s no longer a “normal” or “average” number of applications for my students.

As I said, the past two years have seen more students applying to a few schools early, getting accepted, and being finished. Although the number of clients who apply to only one college is still pretty small, it’s double what it used to be. And the number of clients who apply to four or fewer schools is also a lot higher. So, fewer applications…

…except the students who don’t apply early, or don’t get accepted early, are typically applying to more schools. If there’s not early success, then they get nervous and feel the need to send out more applications, just in case. I’ve had a lot of clients in the past two years apply to more than 15 colleges overall. Last year someone applied to 23. So students are applying to fewer schools or to more schools, but not as many students are applying to the middle of range of four to 12.

Those are the major changes I’ve seen in the past few years. And they seem to be normal. It’s a mess out there, and I haven’t got a lot of hope in the near-to-mid-future that it will get better.

What advice do I have for parents and students considering these changes?

Consider early 11th grade as the ideal time to begin thinking seriously about college admission. I still don’t encourage 9th or 10th graders to get too involved, because there’s still so much time for so much to change. But I know lots of parents my age didn’t begin their own college admission process until 12th grade, and that’s just not nearly as feasible as it used to be.

Think of November 1 as your deadline, not January 1. Some of the large public universities have earlier deadlines, especially if you want financial aid or campus housing. If you’re in a position to consider Early Decision, then consider it seriously. While I used to have “will you apply ED to any of the schools on your list?” conversations, now I mostly have “to which school on your list will you apply ED?” conversations.

Building a balanced list of colleges is incredibly important. I want all my clients, no matter how impressive their transcript and resume, to apply to one or two schools they are very confident they’ll be accepted to. I don’t discourage anyone from applying to as many “highly rejective” colleges as they want, but we work hard to have realistic expectations, and I want those Dream School conversations to happen after the conversations about confident-in-acceptance schools.

Remember that the best way to prepare for college is to be a good high school student. It’s not about “tips and tricks” or strategy. It’s not about secret formulas or inside information. It’s about being the best version of you possible, and then clearly communicating who you are. And as I say as often as possible: when you see unhappy adults, they’re never unhappy because they didn’t get into their top-choice college twenty years ago. College is important, but getting into your Dream School just isn’t that important in the grand scheme. You’re going to be fine.

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Meeting students for the first time

I haven’t been posting online much the past two months (or reading online, for that matter), because I’ve been busy meeting new clients from the class of 2024. The first meeting with a student is one of my favorite parts of the entire process, because it’s when I get to know these new, interesting people. I never stop being amazed and grateful how much strangers will open up to me within a few minutes of meeting.

What does that first meeting look like? One thing that’s really important to me is that we almost never talk about college in our first meeting. Because a good application process is about finding schools that are a good fit with the student, I need to know about the student.

Here is my outline for talking with students the first time. I don’t usually get to every question, and I try to let the conversation flow as naturally as possible. Whether or not you’re going to work with a consultant for college admission (you probably don’t need to), how would you answer these questions? How would you explain yourself to another person? What questions do you think I should ask that I don’t?

 

How’s it going? Two things I learned teaching high school: always begin a test with an easy question to put nervous people at ease, and always begin a discussion by asking what the students want to talk about. So I try to begin every meeting with a general “how’s it going?” or a slightly more specific “how’s school going?” 80% of the time the answer is “fine,” but sometimes students are ready to talk about really interesting things right off the bat.

What school do you attend? What’s it like? Most my clients go to the same five high schools, and I’m familiar with them. But it’s good to hear what the students think of school. There’s are huge differences between “I go to the health professions magnet school because I want to be a doctor,” “I go to the health professions magnet school because my parents make me,” and “I go to the health professions magnet school because I thought I wanted to be a doctor…but I’ve changed my mind and now I’m stuck there.”

What classes are you taking? It’s funny, but most students have trouble answering this question. They’re in their classes all the time, but they’re rarely asked to list them. It’s like asking someone to list all the rooms in their house; it’s so familiar that you rarely actually think about it.

What do you like and dislike about school? What’s working for you? The most popular answer for what students like about school: being with their friends. (Especially after pandemic lockdown.) The most popular answers for what they don’t like: taking classes they’re not interested in. And busy-work.

Have there been any big changes recently, either in circumstances or what’s working for you? If your high school life has a before/after structure, I’d like to know. Before/after you moved. Before/after your parents split. Before/after your injury. Before/after you got in some trouble. Before/after your diagnosis.

Who do you live with? What do they do? Parents, ask your children what you do for a living. You may be surprised by the answer. A lot of my clients have trouble answering this question.

What are your grades like? Do you have a GPA and/or rank? Asking “what are your grades like” often gets a narrative answer. Things like “mostly As, but Bs in math classes” or “not too bad, though I had a bad freshman year.” I follow up with asking about the GPA, but that narrative is much more important.

What tests have you taken (PSAT, SAT, ACT etc.) and how did you do? Do you plan on taking any you haven’t already taken or re-taking any? For years, I noticed that nobody was ever happy with their test scores. Everybody wanted to re-take tests and raise their scores. At least for my clients, that’s largely gone away for the past two years. Thanks to test-optional policies and general fatigue, most are taking the SAT once and being done. I’m happy about that.

Tell me about extra stuff at school. Tell me about extra stuff outside of school. Like listing their classes, students have a hard time with this. I’m constantly going back to my notes on this one to add something when they casually mention something they do outside of school that they didn’t list before.

What are your external limitations and special circumstances? Do you have any learning differences? Dyslexia? Anxiety, depression, or OCD? Do you care for your anyone in your family beyond the occasional babysitting or normal housework? Do you work job to help sustain your family? None of these things are a problem, but they are circumstances it's better to know about sooner than later.

What are your current career aspirations? What are all the things you’ve wanted to be when you grow up? This is my favorite question. Lots of “astronaut,” lots of “lawyer,” lots of “veterinarian.” Someone once told me “I had a spy phase, obviously.” Having someone list all their aspirations, even going back to pre-school, can be illuminating. For some students, there’s a clear theme. Some are all over the place. Some don’t really have a career goal. Late middle school seems to be the line where people either find new interests or begin to lose interest.

What do adults praise you for? I didn’t realize it when I began asking this question, but I can now usually predict the tone of the next year’s work with the student based on their answer to this question. I listen very carefully to what students say—and don’t say—when I ask them this. A few have basically given me an outline for an application essay, enumerating several intrinsic traits that adults have noticed in them and giving examples of how those traits have been helpful to themselves and others over the past few years. At the other end of the spectrum are students who have never really heard praise from adults. Most are somewhere in between.

Why do you do what you do? Everyone does at least a few things beyond the bare necessity of what they have to do to graduate high school. Why have they chosen the things they have? What do they get out of it? Where do they want to go next with those interests?

What’s the last book you read--because it was assigned--and enjoyed?  I don’t think anyone will be surprised that students rarely name a book they read for school that they enjoyed. Most reach back to elementary school to find a good example.

What’s the last book you read on your own volition and enjoyed? This usually gets much more robust and enthusiastic responses. And they’re often books I’ve never heard of.

How heavily do you edit? Big things like school essays and projects, and little things like emails and texts? My favorite responses to this question are the ones who essentially say “I don’t really edit much. I just go back over the essay five or six times, making changes each time, until I feel like it’s good enough. But that’s all.” This question gets more humblebrags than any other.

In the past year, what’s been your biggest victory? Let’s celebrate the good!

In the past year, what’s been your biggest setback? Let’s acknowledge the difficult.

For what are you most grateful? This one is really tough to answer. I know because most students begin by saying “this is really tough to answer.” But then they usually answer it.

If you could magically gain one talent or trait, what would it be?

What are you hoping to get out of college consultations with me? It’s never the student who hires me. Usually parents reach out, occasionally an uncle or a family friend. But there’s always something the student hopes to get from me, and it helps to know what it is. It’s also good for the student to understand that what they hope to get from our work may change as we go.

What else do you want to talk about? What did you expect me to ask that I haven’t asked? What else do you think I might need to know about you? I like to end just as open-ended as I begin. My first year or two doing this, I didn’t ask about test scores in our first meeting. I didn’t want to over-emphasize the numbers. But so many people told me that they were expecting me to ask about test scores and that they wanted to tell me about their test scores, I began asking. I now prefer to ask about ACT/SAT early in the conversation to get it over with, since so many are expecting to talk about it. Like with the opening question, the majority say they have nothing else to talk about or ask. But the ones who have something on their mind usually have something really interesting and useful to say. I always want to make room for interesting and useful.

 

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Three quick questions with Mary Baldwin University

For Three Quick Questions, I send the same three questions to admission representatives at colleges all over the country, and then I hope to hear back from them. The three questions are meant to probe some of the things that make a school unique but that aren’t easily captured as a stat to go in a book or web search.

Today’s response is from Kit Schulz, Admissions Counselor at Mary Baldwin University in Staunton, Virginia.

What is a course, tradition, program or event that is unique to Mary Baldwin University?

Mary Baldwin University is the first college in Virginia to offer Autism Studies & Applied Behavior Analysis as a major (BA).

This major is available to both residential and online students, with the option to obtain a Masters in ABA in one additional year after undergrad. We are proud to offer this program at Mary Baldwin.

Naturally every college wants to recruit the perfect student--high grades, high test scores, involved in their community, leadership...everything. But what kinds of imperfect students tend to flourish at MBU?

First generation students, which make up 40% of our student population, can thrive at MBU. Our McCree Center for Life Success in our library gives students access to counseling and academic support throughout their undergraduate studies. This is also a place where they can pursue internship opportunities within their field starting their freshman year.

When people come to visit Staunton, what's a place off campus that you recommend they check out while they're there?

As a Mary Baldwin alum, having downtown Staunton within walking distance of our campus is one of the greatest appeals of our school's location.

I would recommend the American Shakespeare Center, which is a couple blocks from our campus. The ASE is integral to our connection to downtown Staunton.

There are also plenty of cozy coffee shops like the By&By, which is on the way if you're headed to the theatre.


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On college admission and baseball

I’m a baseball fan. I go to around 20 regular season Houston Astros games a year. I also follow the Texas Rangers, my hometown team. Like a lot of people my age, I got into baseball watching the Cubs. They only played day games at the time, and WGN showed the games on basic cable. So a bored middle school kid in Dallas could watch a professional baseball game most any afternoon.

I was certainly aware of baseball as a younger kid, and even played one season at the YMCA. (I was really, really bad.) But as a kid, I had a very basic understanding of baseball. I thought the only goal of the batter was to hit a home run. To me, the other bases were just a kind of consolation for getting a hit that wasn’t a home run, and maybe you could still get to home plate if a player after you in the lineup hit a home run. I only understood the big hits that everybody cheered loudly about. It was a simplistic understanding.

But as I got older and started watching games regularly, I learned about all the ways teams win other than hitting home runs. I learned about base stealing, the hit-and-run, and how well-hit singles and doubles can make a huge difference. I learned to appreciate a player’s batting average. I learned to appreciate how important double plays are. I learned that even top home-run hitters get one homer every 10-20 times at bat. I learned to appreciate “small ball.”

I’ve come across plenty of people who think about college in ways similar to my childhood view of baseball. They’re focused on the home runs: getting accepted to famous and prestigious university. They think of colleges other than top-ranked “elite” schools as a consolation, as a type of loss. The standard way of categorizing colleges—reach, target, safety—reninforces this way of thinking, which is one reason I don’t like to use those terms. The idea is that you swing for a home run, which is acceptance to a well-known elite college, but that you might still make it to base with a target or safety school. And then, maybe, you’ll get lucky and still reach your life goals, though not as easily as you would having got into the “better” school.

Students (and parents), let’s expand our understanding. There are thousands of colleges and universities in the US, and at least 95% of them are not disappointments. There are so many ways to achieve your aspirations other than attending a top-100 college.

If you are ambitious and looking for the home run, that’s fine. But please understand that the home run isn’t everything, and it may not happen—it probably won’t happen—and you have to be prepared for what else is out there. You need to find the academic equivalent of hustle, taking risks, watching the signs, and being a team player.

A runner on first base can still score a run. A runner on first can still score the dramatic, game-winning run. A runner on first can still be the MVP. But not if they see being on first as a loss. If you’re not going to your first-choice college, remember this lesson. You can still get what you want. What did you want from that prestigious, “elite” college to begin with?

Prestige? Wherever you're going, they'll have a Dean's List, honor societies, and awards. Go for it.

Social connections? Unless you accidentally applied to a monastery instead of a university, there will be people who want to do fun things with other people. There will be clubs, there will be friendships, there will be parties. The people you bond with will go on to do interesting things after college, and many of them will still consider you a friend and an important part of their lives. You'll still consider many of them a friend and an important part of your life.

Career Opportunities? Your school will have some version of a Career Services office. Start going to that office your first year of college. Look for advice, internships, and opportunities.

Leadership roles? You've probably heard a quotation from one of Shakespeare's greatest plays, Twelfth Night: "some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon 'em." If you're upset that you didn't get into your top-choice school, you may be feeling like you definitely weren't born great. But the other two options are still very available. You've got this.

Personal fulfillment? That happens independent of where you go to school. And 99% of the work is actively done by you, not something you receive from teachers or opportunities. This short-term disappointment may be exactly what your personal fulfillment needs.

I don’t want to discourage anyone from aspiring to a prestigous university with a low acceptance rate or applying to one. By all means make that a goal. But please be wise about that goal. The point of a university is to graduate prepared for an active place in the world; the point isn’t just to get accepted to “the best one possible.”

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Finding the right college can be like finding the right bottle of wine

Last night I was supposed to give this talk to a local PTO, but instead I got Covid and am in isolation. I’m publishing it here for them and any other parent. And since the wine here is only metaphorical wine, anyone is welcome to enjoy.

For at least the next few minutes, go back to the beginning. Pretend you know nothing about colleges or the college admission search. For just a few minutes, feel that overwhelming feeling of knowing nothing. You probably know more than nothing; you may already know a lot. But I’ve found that even ambitious, well-informed high school students are often overwhelmed with the search, and somethimes it just helps to go back to the beginning and make sure you’re thinking it all through.

Depending on how you count, there are four to six thousand colleges and universities in the US. Even if you want to narrow it down to “the best” schools, the US News rankings (which aren’t actually an objective measurement of the best) include over 1,400 schools. There are just a lot of choices, and if you don’t know what you’re really looking for, it’s overwhelming. So as a way to think about that overwhelming range of choices, I’d like you to think about another one, something completely different.

Imagine you’re going to buy some wine at a wine shop. So there you are looking for wine, and you know little about wine. Maybe you know nothing about wine. You certainly don’t know what you like. You know some of those bottles are better suited to your taste than others, but you don’t know which ones.

Say you’re in a hurry. You need to pick up one or two bottles of wine for tonight. You’ve been invited to a dinner party and asked to bring wine. But you don’t know anything about wine. A good wine shop will have hundreds of different wines to choose from. How do you choose? 

Expert advice. You can ask for advice from a store employee and hope it’s good advice. But it’s difficult for them to give you good advice if you can’t tell them anything about what you like. The most you can hope for is that they’ll tell you what some of their more popular wines are, or maybe some wines that are good places for beginners. But they have no real way of helping you find something you’ll like in a hurry. 

Ratings and rankings. There are magazines and websites devoted to giving scores and ratings for wine. Many wine shops will highlight the highly rated wines in their store. If you go with something that was rated highly by the Wine Advocate, then you know you’re getting a wine that somebody likes, though you may end up not liking it. You may have completely different taste than the reviewers.

Pictures. Like a lot of people, you can choose a bottle based on how much you like the label. Wine producers pay a lot of attention to their labels and make them as appealing as possible. You can’t judge a wine by its label any more than you can judge a book by its cover, but both will tell you a little it about what’s inside. But not much. To choose based on the label is essentially to rely on advertising and design, not the wine itself. 

Experience. You can go with what you know, however limited that is, by grabbing a bottle that looks familiar. Maybe you see a bottle that you recognize from a restaurant wine list or a friend’s house, and you go with that. Maybe you had a glass of it once and thought it was ok, so you go with that.  

Proximity. Why go looking through all the bins if you don’t know anything about them? Instead, just pick one that’s featured up front and get out of there.

Any of these methods for choosing a wine may work out. Most people in this situation will use a combination of several. But even choosing a wine with a good score…that the store employee recommends…with a great label…can still end up being something you hate. You’re kind of relying on luck that the bottle you pick, however you pick it, will be one that you enjoy. You haven’t got time to figure it out.

A lot of high school seniors pick a college the same way. For a variety of reasons, they haven’t given college a lot of thought or attention before 12th grade. They haven’t thought about what they want or need, just what’s “good.” And then they only have a few months to go through the application process. Seniors who want to pick colleges to apply to when they haven’t done a lot of research use the same methods as someone buying wine in a hurry without much research. 

Advice. There are plenty of people out there willing to give college advice (including me). But the less they know about you, what you want, and what you need, the less useful that advice can be. 

Ratings and rankings. There’s US News and World Report. And Niche. And Forbes. Or you can Google “Best college for ____” and see what you get. I’m not as anti-ranking as many other college admission advisors, but I know that their use is pretty limited. The ranking site’s criteria are not your criteria.

Pictures. Colleges will send you so many pictures: smiling students wearing backpacks walking across campus; crowds at sporting events; extremely small classes held outside. The schools send these pictures because they know they work—many students make very large, expensive, emotional decisions based in some part on the images that marketers send out.

What they’ve heard of. The reason I hear the most often for a student being interested in a particular college is because “I heard it’s a good school.” They can rarely tell me where they heard it.

Proximity. You can narrow down your choices to ones that are nearby. There’s nothing wrong with that, and there are a number of great universities here in town. But it’s a limitation you would only want to impose for reasons beyond limiting the number of colleges you have to think about.

Like with wine, these methods may work. Or they may not. It takes some luck. But there’s another way.

If you’re not necessarily in a hurry to get wine for immediate use, you have time to learn what you like and what works for you. You’ve got time to find the wines that are good for you, not good for the store employee, the wine magazines, or the label designers. To do this takes time and experimentation. If you’re just beginning, try the mixed case method recommended by wine critic Eric Asimov.

“The best way to start out, once you identify a good shop, is to ask for a mixed case of wine. Tell the merchant your budget and parameters, say, half white, half red, with two sparkling wines, or a few rosés. Or, if a case is too much of an investment, just get a bottle or two at a time. As you drink the wines, note which ones you like and which ones you do not. Keep in mind that you can learn something from every bottle as you begin to identify your personal taste.

When you finish, go back to the merchant with your notes, and ask for another mixed case with selections based on your reactions to the first set. Your learning journey has begun.” 

With time, you can use this method to experiment and refine. You can figure out what works for you, which may not be what you would have predicted before you began paying attention. You can get advice, but the advice based on your preferences and, more important, your actual experience. The mixed-case approach takes time and upfront investment, but it’s going to get you to a point where you know what you want and where to find it. It’s going to get you to a point where when you walk into a wine store you know what to do and how to get good results.

If you’re a high school student now, in the 9th-11th grade, you have time for a similar approach to college. Begin with a (metaphorical) mixed case. Look at some large public universities, some mid-sized research schools, some smaller liberal arts college. Check out some of the more unique and “quirky” colleges that are out there. Pay attention and take notes as you learn about schools that you may not have heard of. Then use that information to find more of what you’re looking for.

This is essentially what I do with the students I work with. After a few casual meetings getting to know them, I recommend a bunch of colleges to check out. It’s a mixed case, but larger—usually 30-50 colleges to begin with. I ask them to take some time—from several weeks to several months to almost a year, depending on their grade—to get to know those schools and to take notes on what they find appealing about them. Then from there we add and subtract more schools based on their research until we get it down to around 12 schools for applications in the fall of their senior year. The list we make is balanced, and it’s tailored to them.

Even before we get to that point, though, we’ll do a “blind tasting.” I will give them a chart with descriptions and lots of stats for four to six colleges, but I don’t tell them the names of the colleges. That way the students can’t be swayed by the reputations of the colleges and need to look at them more objectively. We walk through the charts for each school, and I pay close attention to what kinds of things really stand out to them. Some really pay attention to student-faculty ratio, and others don’t care about that. Some are more interested in student diversity than others. Some want to know that their chosen major is a popular one, and some look for schools with a wide mix of popular majors. This exercise helps me get a sense of what they like and what’s important to them before I begin recommending anything.

Here’s a generic mixed case to begin with. 12 schools total: three big public universities, three private research schools, three small liberal arts colleges, and three quirky schools. For any of these categories, I could easily choose 30 more. But these will work. Spend some time figuring out which ones you like, and why. It’s not important right now if you think you might apply to any of them. The point is to get a sense of what you’re looking for, and why. Use Niche, Big Future, Fiske, and the college websites. Then, start searching for colleges with similar traits that you’re looking for. Also, your research can help you find similar colleges. The Fiske guide lists overlapping schools for any in the guide, and Niche also lists similar colleges.

Colorado State University. Fort Collins, CO

University of Alabama. Tuscaloosa, AL

University of Wisconsin-Madison. Madison, WI

Case Western Reserve University. Cleveland, OH

Duke University. Durham, NC

Rice University. Houston, TX

Occidental College. Los Angeles, CA

Champlain College. Burlington, VT

Knox College. Galesburg, IL

Cooper Union. New York, NY

Colorado College. Colorado Springs, CO

Warren Wilson College. Asheville, NC

Let me give a warning about choosing a college based on your intended major. If you don’t know, don’t make it up. Around a third of college students change their major at least once, so don’t feel too sure of your major unless you’re really, strongly sure. If you’ve got no idea what you might major in, there are schools that are really good for that.

This is just a metaphor, and there are limits to how closely finding the wine you like is similar to finding a good-fit college. You’re not choosing one wine to be THE ONE. You can spend months and years trying many wines and finding a whole range of things you like. Most people, however, will only graduate from one college. That’s why early research is so important.

Also, at a wine shop, the price on the tag is generally the price you will pay. Not so for colleges. You don’t know what you can afford until you apply and are accepted. So while “affordable” has to be one of the final deciding factors, it doesn’t necessarily have to be in your early searches.

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Trying to get more financial aid

It’s early April, seniors. By now you should have all your admission decisions back from colleges, and you should also have your financial aid offers. You’ve got a little less than a month to make your final decision, and cost is probably a major—if not the only—factor that will guide your decision on where to go. Comparing financial aid offers is tricky, because they’re not uniform and not always very clear. So the first thing to do is to go through them carefully and slowly with your family. If you have questions, ask. The schools should have given you the contact information for questions and concerns, so use that.

It’s very typical at this point to have two or three good choices and no clear top choice. If that’s the case, then you’ll probably choose the most affordable of them and be done with your search. But if you still have a single standout favorite, then after understanding the competing offers you may find yourself realizing that you’re unable to attend your top-choice school because of finances. If that’s the case, there’s still time to ask for more money, but you have to move quickly.

It is absolutely essential that you know how much money you still need. You should have this number already, because you and your family have talked about what is affordable for you. You’re down to the final days and very specific dollar amounts. You need a real number, not a hazy concept. If your family is saying that the top-choice school is still not within range, ask them how much money would make it affordable. You need that number. Otherwise, you don’t know what you’re asking for and won’t know if you get it.

Next, prioritize. You can make an effort to change one, maybe two, offers. Limit yourself to that. Don’t put yourself through the entire process again with a lot of places. Focus.

Have your back-up plan. Assume there will be no financial aid changes, and make a plan based on that assumption. Make your appeals, but assume that the offers you have are your final offers. Don’t hold onto so much hope that you don’t plan for the likely outcome.

Finally, understand that you’re not really negotiating. You’re not in a position of strength here. You’re not haggling, this is not a game, there is no winner. You’re simply asking for more money. You may get it, you may not. Be prepared for both. If you want to have a sense of how likely a school is to work with you, there are a few things to look up. First, see how many people took a place on the waitlist for the past few years, and also how many people on the waitlist actually got a spot. If the school uses a large waitlist and few people actually get off the waitlist, then “if you don’t give me more money I won’t go there” isn’t much of a threat. Also compare your bottom-line number to their average net price. If they’re asking more from you than what’s average, there may be some room to work. But again, these just give you an idea. They help you manage your own expectations. You don’t get an answer from the school until you ask, and last year’s stats don’t necessarily tell you anything about your own situation.

Understand what you’re asking for and why. Then explain both of those things as clearly as possible to the school. This isn’t the time for clever narratives or emotional pleas. Let them know what the problem is and ask them politely if they’re able to help solve it. Here are some common scenarios.

You’re asking for more need aid because your situation isn’t the same as what’s on your FAFSA. Your Expected Family Contribution and need are based on the information you submitted to the FAFSA (and sometimes the CSS Profile). But that information may be out of date, and your circumstances have changed significantly. One example might be that a parent or guardian is at a different job or no longer has a job, so their income is much lower. If this is the case, explain the issue, and provide as much documentation as possible. The more evidence, the better. Send along more recent tax documents, pay stubs, medical bills or other official documents that can help you show that your actual need is very different from the one that was calculated earlier.

You’re asking for more need aid because they gapped you. This probably isn’t an accident—they know they gapped you. Tell them that the school is still your top choice, but that you won’t be able to attend with the package they offered you. What if you can get by without getting the full need met? This is a difficult situation. If you let them know you don’t really need your full need met, then you may be asking for less than they might actually offer you. This is unlikely, but still a risk. If you tell them you absolutely need the full need met, then they may offer you nothing even though you may have got the lesser amount. So there’s a risk either way. I advise people to be upfront and tell them exactly how much you really need, but I understand people not wanting to ask less than the full need amount and “leave money on the table.”

You’re asking for more merit aid because, despite getting full need met, you don’t think you can actually afford to go without more. If they’ve met your full need beyond EFC, this is going to be tricky. But let them know and see. Be polite and show gratitude for meeting your full need. And let them know that, despite the formula, you still won’t be able to attend without more aid. Let them know exactly how much more you’re asking for—the smaller the number, the easier it may be to get them to offer it.

You’re asking for more merit aid because you got a better offer from a different school, but this one is still your top choice. It’s difficult to accept an offer from a school, even your favorite, when another school is offering a much better aid package. Let the school know your situation. Provide documentation of the better offer. Remember, you’re not haggling or negotiating. If you say “match this better offer or I’m not going to your school,” they can easily say “have a great time at the other school!” But if you’re saying that you and the school are a great match and it’s truly your top choice, but that your family just ins’t in a position to walk away from a better offer from another school that’s also a good fit…but not as good a fit, then say so and see what they can do. Again, make sure you’ve talked to your family and know what kind of price you’ll accept. The school is likely to give you more aid, but not as much as that other school is actually offering. Be emotionally prepared for this.

You’re asking for more merit aid because you would like more aid even though you can afford it. You won’t have to walk away from your top choice, you just think it doesn’t hurt to ask. You’re right, it doesn’t. But it’s difficult to explain and difficult to get sympathy. If they’ve meet your full EFC and you don’t have a cheaper offer from another school to document, you're essentially asking “hey, got any aid money left?” If this is what you’re doing, emphasize how great a fit the school is and how it’s your very top choice. Let them know that the aid package they’re offering is really going to stretch your family budget in a way that is difficult, that you’re hoping that more aid has been freed up, and that if it has you would like to be considered.

I wish you well in these final weeks, seniors! It’s still really stressful, but you’re almost there.

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Lots of college admission news!

This time of year can be pretty boring for college admission news. While admission offices work through their piles of applications, there’s usually not much to report until they start sending decisions and stats. But this month has brought three major pieces of news. Below is a quick summary of each, with links to learn more, and my ideas about how likely the news is to affect you, a current high school student.

16 colleges are being sued over their financial aid practices.

What’s the story? Colleges aren’t supposed share notes with each other on their financial aid decisions. Each school has to come up with their own offers—and their own way of deciding how much to offer—so that students can compare offers and go to the school with the most financial aid if they choose. There has to be competition, and that’s the law. However, there’s a group with an exemption to the law. They get together and come up with a single shared “methodology” for determining financial aid awards. They’re able to do this because they don’t discuss who gets accepted, and because they’re all need blind, meaning your ability to pay isn’t part of their decision to accept you. That, says the law, is competitive enough. But the lawsuit, brought by five people, says that nine of the colleges aren’t exactly need blind. Because the admission offices may track which applicants are from families that are big donors—or have the potential to be big donors—then the ability to pay is in fact a consideration…and one that only works in the favor of wealthy applicants. They’re essentially competing for rich students and then conspiring with each other about how much to offer the not-rich students. So, say the people suing the schools, they’re not actually need blind and therefore shouldn’t be allowed to share information. What about the other seven schools? The lawsuit claims that since most of the schools in the group are tainted by the double-standard, the whole group is, because they all share their data to come up with a shared “methodology.”

Will this affect you? Probably not. Lawsuits like this take a long time to work their way through the courts. It’s likely that you will be through college, or at least already in college, before this litigation has any impact. But technically, if the group decides to disband soon, and if you apply to any of the 16 colleges and are accepted, then it could affect your financial aid offer. Technically. But nobody knows what that effect might be.

Want to read more?

Lawsuit says 16 elite colleges are part of price-fixing cartel. (New York Times)

Class action suit filed against to private colleges. (Inside Higher Ed)

Affirmative Action case is going to the Supreme Court.

What’s the story? Colleges and universities are legally allowed to consider race as a factor for admission. There are some guidelines, though: race can be used in order to increase the educational goal of diversity; it can’t be used to make schools intentionally less diverse. There can’t be quotas; a school can’t decide beforehand that, for example, 25% of their students will be Black. Race can only be used as part of a holistic approach; it can't be the only, or first, criteria. Affirmative Action has been upheld by the Supreme Court—including those guideline—as recently as 2016. But now the Supreme Court will hear two previously separate cases combined into a single one. Both Harvard and UNC won their initial Affirmative Action cases when they were sued by an anti-affirmative-action group. Harvard also won their case in the next level of appeal. But the Supreme Court is willing to hear both the cases, and the basic assumption is that they wouldn’t want to take the cases unless they were willing to change something about the laws.

Will this affect you? Possibly. The case won’t be heard until this October at the earliest, and nobody’s expecting a ruling until summer of 2023. But if there’s a major change to what’s considered legal, then universities may make some fairly large changes pretty quickly after that. But what kinds of changes those may be depends on the outcome of the case, which won’t happen for a while. So it’s possible there will be some major new rules around race and admission by the time younger high school students apply to college, but it’s far from guaranteed.

Want to read more?

Supreme Court will hear challenge to Affirmative Action at Harvard and U.N.C. (New York Times)

Supreme Court takes affirmative action case. (Inside Higher Ed)

The SAT is making some major changes.

What’s the story? Beginning in 2023 outside the US and 2024 in the US, the SAT will only be given online. It will be administered in test centers; students will not be taking it at home. Not only is the test going digital, but the format will change. There will be shorter reading passages with fewer questions. Calculators will be allowed for all math portions. Instead of every student answering all of the same questions, the computer program will use different questions to “figure out” what level you’re at in less time with fewer questions. The new test will take around two hours instead of three, and 80% of the students who took the pilot test said it was less stressful than the old pencil-and-paper test.

Will this affect you? If you’re in the 9th grade now, then absolutely it will. You may end up taking the new SAT, you make take the ACT, you may take both, you may take neither. But if you already hear strategizing and scheming at your school around standardized tests (Should I take the test? Which one? How many times? What do my scores mean? Should I report them to test-optional schools?), then those conversations are going to be amplified in the coming years as people try to figure out what to make of the new SAT. I hope you won’t get stressed about the SAT. But if you were already inclined to get stressed about the SAT, this is going to make it worse. At least until you take the test, which they say will be be less stressful. Maybe. Be prepared.

Want to read more?

Put down your No. 2 pencils. Forever. (New York Times)

The new SAT. (Inside Higher Ed)

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Expect surprises

In my years teaching high school seniors who were going though college admission, I learned to expect surprises. Several times I had fairly intense conversations in April with a senior trying to choose between two colleges. And on the May 1st deadline I would learn…that they went someplace completely different. I saw seniors celebrate in December their early acceptance to their dream school only to have very different dreams—and enroll at a very different school—in the spring. I learned never to consider a decision final until the student actually committed on paper. Even then, sometimes students will change their minds or do something completely different. When it comes to college admission, which is a very big, complex, and important decision, we should all expect surprises.

As a consultant, I often remind clients to expect surprises and not to be afraid of them. I’ve had clients begin the process in their junior year with a very clear set of goals, only to find themselves with a very different set of goals by the end. I’ve heard a shocking number of times: “I don’t actually know why I applied to that college.”

I had a couple surprises last week as I was checking in on people to see what news they’ve heard so far and what I can do to help them over the next month. One client initially told me that she’s not interested in going to school in the South, except maybe Florida. Still, I wasn’t too surprised when she told me a month ago that she applied to the University of Alabama. And this week she told me she’d been accepted to 11 schools so far, including Ole Miss. I didn’t know she applied to Ole Miss until she’d already been accepted. Surprise!

Another client had a plan. She was going to apply to UT Austin and Texas A&M, where she knew she would be accepted through auto-admission. She was also going to apply to Harvard and Cornell. And that’s it. Four schools: two assured acceptances, two long shots. So was I surprised when she told me this week that she was offered a scholarship at Auburn and is interviewing at Baylor? A little. But I’ve come to expect surprises.

Students, it’s ok to change your mind about things. People do it all the time, and you’re still growing and figuring things out. All that I ask about changing your mind and embracing the surprises is that you’re honest with yourself about your reasons. Self-knowledge is the best knowledge, and understanding your own motivations is honestly more important to your future success than what college you attend.

Take a (relatively) common example: the senior who gets accepted to an exclusive private college, one that they had as their top choice school, but ends up going to the less selective public university that’s much closer to home. They choose less prestige than they might. Why might a student do this? There are plenty of reasons.

A student might realize that they were only applying to the selective school to see if they would be selected, not because they actually want to go there.

A student may have known all along that they were unlikely to afford the private school but wanted to find out for sure. This student is fine with the decision.

Another student may have just assumed that a big scholarship would fall in their lap, and when it didn’t they changed plans and are very not-fine with the decision.

A student may have applied for the selective school with a major in mind, and then changed their mind about their intended major.

They may have visited the selective school and realized that the culture isn’t a good fit and not worth the extra money for them.

They may be experiencing mental or physical health problems that make being near home more practical.

They may be experiencing a major case of poor self-esteem and feel like they don’t deserve to go to the more prestigious school even though they were accepted.

They may change their mind and have no real idea why.

There are so many reasons to change your plan; there are probably overlapping reasons. But be honest with yourself. If what’s happening is that you’re scared of failure and so you’re setting yourself up for something that seems easier, don’t tell yourself that you’re changing your mind because of the dorms. If you’re freaking out because you now understand your family’s financial situation isn’t a stable as you assumed, don't tell yourself that you’re suddenly philosophically against private education. You can’t grow if you’re not honest about what the problems are. That’s really important.

You don’t have to tell everyone your reasons for changing your plan. You can always say of the school you enroll at: “it turned out to be the best academic, financial, and social fit for me.” And leave it that at. But if the reasons for your surprise move are things you need help with, you have to be honest with yourself so you can get that help.

Parents, keep yourself open to possibilities. When I talk to a student who doesn’t know what they want to major in but feel pressure to figure it out by their senior year of high school, it’s always their parents who are doing the pressuring. The reasons for the pressure are completely valid. It is indeed easier to choose a school suited to your field of study if you know what your field of study is. You are more likely to graduate on time if you go in with a plan and a schedule. College is indeed an expensive place to just explore interests. And yet you have to expect surprises. A third of college students change their major at least once. Forcing them to figure it out before applications doesn’t actually make things go more smoothly. When you’re helping your student choose colleges, focus on things other than fields of study and majors, especially if your child seems unsure. I don’t worry about clients who don’t have a major picked out. They’ve got a lot to discover and a lot that can go right. I worry a lot about clients who seem to have the next five years mapped out. They’re in for surprises, and there’s a lot that can go wrong.

Surprises happen, all the time. Those of us who see them over and over again are not that phased by them. Students going through the process for the first time, and especially their families, are often really distressed about it. Many high school students don't know what they want to do, what they want to study, where they want to be in the world. While I could share a bunch of exercises on trying to figure it out, instead I’m going to share the words of Zen Master Seung Sahn: “Good. Keep this ‘don’t know mind.’ It is an open mind, a clear mind.”

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Things for parents to know about paying for college

Last night I had a great conversation with some neighbors about paying for college. Most of them I’ve known a long time, but this get-together was organized specifically for me to answer their questions—as best as I could—about college admission and affordability.

The discussion kept circling around two central themes. One, it is so important for parents to talk to their students about the cost of college, their expectations, and their budget. Soon. Don't save those conversations until after the finial aid offers come in. Secondly, because the cost of college can be so unpredictable and confusing, you have to apply broadly. This broad approach to cost mirrors the broad approach to admission. You need to apply to a few college that are a good fit and that you’re really confident you can afford. You can also apply to some that may or may not be realistic depending on how much merit aid they may offer. And you need to be aware of which schools are so selective that they offer no merit aid.

I wasn’t sure where the conversation would lead, and so I made sure to have my main “talking points” ready. We covered some of these, but not all. I’m sharing them here for anyone.

(I’m also compelled to point out that it’s October 1st, which means the FAFSA and CSS Profile are open for current seniors.)

You don’t know what any individual college will cost until your student applies and is accepted. You can get estimates. But how much your student gets depends on how much the other accepted students get, among other factors. So the price is different for everyone, and it’s not settled until aid offers are made to all the accepted students.

Talk to your student about the financial expectations. Be specific. Use numbers. The calmest students I work with are the ones who know what their budget is. Lots of parents don’t want to share too much about their financial situation. It’s common and understandable, but not practical. Be as upfront as possible about your financial goals and limits.

Chances are that nobody wants to pay for your student to go to college more than you do. Colleges usually do help with the cost, but it helps to understand their motives and limits. I sometimes hear parents say “If the college really wants my child to go there, they can offer more aid.” The amount of aid they offer is part of their business model and complicated formulations—not how much they like your kid.

Most parents I talk to say that they fall into that slice of people who make too much money to qualify for financial aid but don’t make enough money to pay for college. All those parents send their kids to college. I’ve yet to meet the person who didn’t go to college because their parents made too much money. Those families end up making choices they didn’t want to make, by choosing a more affordable school over the “dream school,” taking on more debt than they hoped to, and/or selling assets they wanted to keep. But they always choose college.

There are thousands of colleges in the US. Each is unique. But you can break them down into three broad categories: in-state public, out-of-state public, private. Each has a different price range, and each is going to have a different approach to aid.

Roughly 85% of students receive some kind of financial aid. Around 15% pay the “sticker price.” Only about 2% receive a “full ride.” Full athletic scholarships are actually very rare.

Most or all of your aid will come from the college. Start there. Lots of financial aid actually comes from the federal government, in the form of Pell grants and subsidized student loans. Many states also have grants for college affordability. But it’s the financial aid office at the school you attend who coordinates all those awards and loans. The money, even when it isn’t the school’s money, usually makes its way to you through the school.

Merit aid probably doesn’t mean what you think it does. There are several different flavors of merit aid, and it’s often unpredictable. It rarely has anything to do with what a student “deserves.” Again, nobody really wants to pay for your kid to go to college more than you do.

There are two forms you may be asked to fill out. Neither are fun or easy. The FAFSA is administered by the US Department of Education and relies on tax forms. Almost everyone uses this. The CSS Profile is administered by the College Board and tries to understand your assets, not just your income. Many private universities ask for this on top of the FAFSA.

Future earnings correlate to your major more than they do to your college.

Some debt is normal. And debt counts as “aid.” College students having around $30,000 total debt upon graduation is average. For most college grads, that’s manageable. You can get into real debt trouble if you take out much more than that, and you can get into real debt trouble if you borrow money but don’t finish your degree.

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When should you tour colleges?

A few weeks ago a parent asked me when I recommend touring colleges. Her daughter is a senior, so it pretty much came down to choosing between times this fall and this spring. But I know many families like to visit colleges throughout high school (or earlier), so I’d like to talk about all the different times you may want to visit a campus. There are no right or wrong times, but there are reasons to be deliberate about which colleges you tour and when.

Before the end of 11th grade. Start as early as you like, and visit as many colleges as you like. There’s no rule that says you have to wait until later in high school. The advantage to visiting colleges before the end of 11th grade: you have lots of time. It gives you a chance to visit more schools and an opportunity to get to know different types of schools. Don’t just pay attention to what makes each school unique, but also to all the things they may have in common. A feature or tradition that seems really cool at one school becomes less fascinating when you realize that many colleges have essentially the same feature or tradition. The drawback to visiting colleges before the end of 11th grade: your early tours may not correspond whatsoever to colleges you will actually apply to when you’re a senior. Most students’ college plans evolve a lot between 9th and 12th grade. By the time you actually apply to schools, you may be wondering why you ever bothered to visit that college. Tip: especially in 9th and 10th grade, go on “practice” tours at universities close to home, whether or not you eventually want to apply there. Get a feel for different types and sizes of universities without as much travel or expense.

The summer before 12th grade. This is a really popular time to visit colleges, which makes sense. The advantage to visiting colleges the summer before 12th grade: you’ve got time away from school. I don’t like to assume that high school students and their families have nothing going on in the summer and have unlimited time and resources to tour colleges. Still, it’s a few months without high school, and that makes a high difference for a lot of people. Also, by the summer before your senior year you’re probably a lot closer to your final college list. There’s more urgency to these visits, because these are schools you’re more likely to actually apply to. The drawback to visiting colleges the summer before 12th grade: if “vibe” is something you’re looking for, summer is a difficult time to feel it. There are a lot fewer students on campus. Plus, lots of schools earn revenue by renting out their facilities to summer camps and other non-college events. I’ve been on a college campus in the summer when it was full of middle school cheerleaders. I’ve been on a college campus in the summer when it was full of 6th grade science nerds. I’ve been on a college campus in the summer when it was full of Army soldiers in fatigues. It’s hard to get “the feel” of a campus during a time when it doesn’t have its normal feel. Tip: don’t let this visit be your first contact. If this is a school you’re interested in applying to, you should already be on their mailing list and have spent some time doing online research about them. Already have some sort of relationship with the college before showing up to visit.

The fall of 12th grade. This is also a popular time to visit colleges. By this point, things are getting quite real. You’ve got to send off applications by the end of this semester. The advantage to visiting colleges the summer in the fall of 12th grade: lots of high schools give excused absences for college visits. It’s expected and allowed for you to miss (a little bit of) school for these days away. And by this time, you can focus on schools that are definitely on your list. The drawback to visiting colleges in the fall of 12th grade: senior year is busy, and there’s not always much time. And you're realistically only talking about the first half of the fall of 12th grade, since you need to save time to actually complete applications. Tip: if you’re sure you’re going to apply to a particular college, you don’t need to visit in the fall. Use this limited time to focus on your undecided schools to help you decide if you really want to apply. You may completely fall in love with a school and decide it’s your new top choice. You may also really hate a campus and wonder what you ever saw in that college.

As I write that, I can already hear people objecting. If you’re sure you want to apply to a school and have time to visit, you should tour there so you get the Demonstrated Interest “points.” They’re not wrong; if a university takes Demonstrated Interest into account, then a campus visit is a big deal. Still, I would say two things to that objection. One, you should spend your time and resources, if you’re even able to go on fall visits, getting what you need to make a wise choice, not gaming the system to try to convince them you’re worthy. You’re a person, not just a resume. Prioritize getting information and experiences that will help you, as a person, make better decisions. Second, there are plenty of other ways to demonstrate interest, and you should certainly do those things. Make sure you’re on the school’s mailing list, and check their website often. Email the admission officer for your area and tell them exactly what’s up: you’re not going to tour in the fall, because you already know you’ll definitely apply. Instead, ask about dates and formats for accepted student visits in the spring. Apply Early Action if it’s available, or even Early Decision. You can let them know you’re interested without feeling like you absolutely have to go on campus. Going to visit a college just so you can write your name on the attendance list and “get credit” is not a wise use of your time.

The spring of 12th grade. Don’t forget about this! Most colleges host accepted student weekends and other events for students trying to make a decision. The advantage to visiting colleges the summer in the spring of 12th grade: you’re super-focused on finding the right fit, and you’re only visiting places you’ve been accepted. Also, by this point students who need financial help have usually already made their case, and there are often opportunities for some travel costs to get reimbursed. You can’t count on financial aid for spring visits, but you can ask about it. The drawback to visiting colleges in the spring of 12th grade: if you’re accepted to too many schools, this can be really overwhelming. Getting lots of acceptances and having lots of options is good…until you have to choose just one or two to visit in the spring. The most stressed-out seniors I ever taught were the ones trying to cram a lot of college visits in their last semester of high school. Tip: before going on any spring visits, review and update your college mission statement. They’re doing everything they can to dazzle you and get you to send in that deposit, so make sure you have what you want top of mind, not what they can wow you with.

Bonus tip: Every parent wants their children to be safe, but I have a friend who is extremely security focused. (He was a Marine sniper.) When his family went on college visits, his wife would go along on the official tour with their children. Then he would go out on his own. He would walk into buildings to see if anyone noticed there was a stranger there. He would strike up conversations with the security guards, maintenance workers, and landscapers. He would try to get a sense of how safe people outside the admission department felt the school was. While I don’t recommend this approach to most people (I can just picture myself getting arrested for walking into the wrong building and ruining my children’s chances of admission), it is a reminder that everyone should be watching not only what the tour guides show them, but also looking for hints beyond the official program. Just don’t get in trouble.

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"The light is much better here"

There’s an old joke that goes back at least to the 1920s. One night a police officer sees a drunk man on his hands and knees in the light of a street lamp. “What are you doing?” the officer asks. “I lost my keys, and I’m looking for them,” replies the drunk man. The cop asks “Is this where you lost them?” “No,” the man replies, “but the light is much better here.” It’s a silly joke, but “looking for your keys under the street light” is also shorthand for doing something that’s simple instead of effective. It’s also a good metaphor for the biases we carry around with us.

It’s also, I want to say, a good metaphor for college rankings. The updated US News rankings came out yesterday, and they are—as they are every year, for better and worse—on the minds and in the comments of lots of people today.

Do most students really believe that the rankings will tell them which college is right for them?

Do most parents really believe the only path for professional success for their children is through a top-ranked school?

Do most universities really want to spend advertising dollars touting their ranking, even though they understand how incomplete and dubious that rank is?

No, but the light is just so much better there.

Instead of just laughing at the drunk man (remember: in my analogy you are the drunk man), let’s consider his situation for a moment. We might actually find some empathy and understanding.

One, he has a real problem. He has lost something valuable. He’s not just looking for any old thing, but his keys. It’s hard to get inside his home without them. If you are a student looking for a college that is a good academic, social, and financial fit for you, you are also looking for something valuable. Even if you think it’s silly for the man to be looking under the street lamp for his keys, it’s not necessarily reasonable to tell him to just go home without them. Maybe there’s someone else who can let him in that one time, but just giving up on your keys is not a viable solution if it can be avoided. Same for a good-fit college. You’re looking for something valuable, and that’s why you’re checking the rankings. You may not know yet where else to look, but giving up is not a good idea.

Two, he has external difficulties. It’s late and dark. He hasn’t got access to sunlight to make the search easier. In many ways, looking for the right college is also looking in the dark. There are thousands of two- and four-year colleges and universities in the United States. Most people only apply once, if at all, so you don’t get to learn from your earlier attempts. Even if you have parents or older family members who did go to college, the experience is much different now than it was a few decades ago. It’s overwhelming, and anyone willing to provide a shortcut, like rankings, is going to seem like a friend, no matter how useless in the long run that shortcut may be.

Three, he has internal difficulties. In the joke, the man is drunk. He hasn’t got all his internal resources to help him make a good and effective search. You’ve also got internal difficulties. In any year, having the time, resources, and mental energy to do a thorough college search—especially if you’re doing it without help—is a lot to ask. Few people have all they need for the best college search and application. The past two years have been a lot worse. If you’re overwhelmed and have too many other stresses to deal with, then hanging around where things look a bit easier isn’t surprising. It actually makes sense.

I feel for the drunk man, and I’m not going to judge him for looking under the street lamp. In fact, consider the inverse. Imagine a man loses his keys and spends days searching for them. He finally finds them…under the street lamp. He didn’t look there first because it seemed too easy. I also feel for college-seeking high school students, and I’m not going to judge them for checking the rankings. I look at them too, all the time. Don’t avoid them just because they seem too simplistic. But I will try my best to stick to the analogy I’m working with and give some further advice.

Start with the street light, but don’t stop there. I think rankings—whether US News, Niche, Forbes, or others—is a fine place to start looking for colleges. They seem to be a simple and easy place to get started on a daunting task. So have a look at those rankings. But don’t let yourself believe that they are objective, true, or best for you. They’re only an easing-in point. Then you move on to better research.

The keys aren’t under the street light, but other clues may be. If you go to a ranking site, don’t just look at the list and the rankings. Click on individual schools, and you’ll see a lot more information. The easy-to-find information is the great part of the rankings, not the order. If you’re going to start clicking on schools, don’t start with the top 10. Skip down to #100 and begin there. It’s not like you’ll never hear about Princeton again if you don’t click on that link right now.

If you know that the street light isn’t actually helpful but you’re just looking there for ease and comfort, admit that to yourself so you’ll know when to move on. Somewhere in his head, drunk as he may be, the man knows his keys aren’t there under the light. But it’s late, and he’s drunk, and it’s just reassuring to stay under the lamp post. Colleges know that the rankings have nothing to do with their true value—as do parents and students. But it’s overwhelming for students and it’s difficult for universities to distinguish themselves, and rankings are an easy and reassuring place to spend some time. If that’s what you’re doing, that’s fine. It makes total sense. But admit that to yourself and understand that you can’t keep thinking of the top-ranked schools as the “best” schools for you. One of those schools may end up being the best school for you. But if it does, I assure you, it has nothing to do with US News’s numbers and methods.

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Not all merit aid is the same

It’s generally understood that there are two types of financial aid: need-based aid and merit aid. Need-based aid is relatively straightforward. Your family submits financial documents (mostly income tax forms) so your Expected Family Contribution, how much you and your family might be expected to pay, can be determined. The difference between the price of a college and your EFC is considered need. Need-based aid, loans that have to be repaid and/or grants that don’t have to be repaid, is awarded to help you cover that need.

Merit aid, on the other hand, isn’t based on financial need. Merit aid—scholarships and grants—is what colleges offer to students trying to entice them to choose their school over other schools. It’s a tool universities use to make sure they get enough students to enroll and to get the student they really want.

(There is a lot of overlap between need-based and merit aid. If a college is really interested in a student, they may find a way to reduce their EFC and therefore get more need-based aid. Also, being able to meet full need and not gap a student on aid is definitely a way to entice students. But let’s ignore the overlap today and focus on pure merit aid.)

What’s less generally understood is that there is a wide variety of merit aid. To get an idea of the spectrum of merit aid, let’s look at two examples from my home in Houston.

When you look at the scholarship page on the University of Houston’s website, you get a lot of information. There are so many different scholarships, both funded by the university and outside sources, that they have a special navigation tool to help you search through all of them. Each scholarship has a name, a description, and instructions for how to apply. You can spend a lot of time looking through the scholarships and see exactly what you may be eligible for. It’s overwhelming at first, but it’s transparent.

Screenshot of the Scholarship Universe page at the University of Houston website.

Screenshot of the Scholarship Universe page at the University of Houston website.

For comparison, have a look at the Rice University merit scholarships page.

All admitted freshman applicants are automatically considered for merit-based scholarships so that no separate application forms or interviews are necessary. The Office of Admission notifies scholarship winners at the time of admission to the university.

That’s it. There aren’t individual scholarships you can apply for, nor are there descriptions or requirements. It’s the scholarship version of “don’t call us, we’ll call you.”

Screenshot of the Merit Scholarship page at Rice University’s website.

Screenshot of the Merit Scholarship page at Rice University’s website.

These are two extremes. On one end is U of H, which is basically a list of individual scholarships that require extra applications on your part. On the other end is Rice, where merit aid is not separately applied for, but is just part of your overall application. One is limited, but transparent. One is open-ended, but opaque.

Merit aid at most colleges is somewhere in between. There are named and defined scholarships for which you can apply, but there are also “merit aid” tuition discounts that just…appear. It helps to remember that while need-based aid is all about you and your particular circumstances, merit aid is all about the school and the funds they have to try to entice students to apply and enroll. Some schools have limited funds to hand out merit aid, and some schools have tons.

These two extreme examples remind us of several key ideas when it comes to merit aid:

Not all merit aid is the same. There’s the specified and limited kind like you see on the University of Houston website, and then there’s the mysterious kind you see on the Rice website. When I talk to students, they’re usually thinking of the UH kind. They’re talking about scholarships for which they can apply. When I talk to college admission professionals, they’re usually thinking of the Rice kind. They’re talking about the tuition discounts that are offered out of the blue by algorithmic calculations the college makes to decide how much to offer you to entice you to enroll. When you’re thinking about applying to a college, spend time on their financial aid sites to see where they fall in their approach. You don’t want to miss an opportunity to apply for a scholarship, nor do you want to assume that there’s no merit aid if there is. But you should know what the school offers.

Merit aid is often out of your control. It’s all about them enticing you for their enrollment needs, not necessarily you earning something through a competition. There are all sorts of reasons a university may want to entice you, and you often don’t know what it may be. Maybe the college is trying to improve the stats of their incoming class and therefore their ranking, so they want to lure students with higher test scores and higher GPAs. Maybe they’re trying to improve diversity, so they want to lure students from different parts of the country or with different experiences than those who typically applied in the past. Maybe they’re trying to fill up a new major they offer or revitalize a declining program, so they want to lure bright students with a particular course of study in mind. Maybe they want to lure wealthy students who can pay cash, so they flatter them by giving them a merit-based scholarship and a small discount to get them to come and pay most of the tuition. So think of merit aid as “acceptance plus.” You’ve been accepted to the college, plus they want to give you a discount in order to really lure you in. Some schools give very few applicants this kind of bonus, and some schools give most—or even all—their applicants some kind of bonus.

Generally speaking, expect more transparency from public institutions. It’s not surprising that University of Houston has the navigable list of specific scholarships. Public institutions, which are subsidized by tax dollars and overseen by public boards, tend to have more regulations in place for transparency. Private colleges are more likely to use the un-announced, un-applied-for type of merit aid. To be clear, I’m not saying that public universities are more or less likely to give you merit aid, just more likely to tell you upfront what it might be, and to make you apply for it separately.

Generally speaking, expect less merit aid the more selective an institution is. Remember that merit aid is meant to entice you to apply to their college, and to enroll if accepted. So it makes sense that the lower the acceptance rate of a college, the less merit aid you might expect. They already have enough applications; they don’t need to entice more. That’s how a private university with a low acceptance rate like Rice can be so nonchalant about merit aid. And it’s how the schools with the very lowest acceptance rates, like Harvard and Stanford, don’t give merit aid at all.

With each school you apply to, know what their merit aid landscape looks like and what you need to do. If you’re considering applying to a school, make sure you check out their website to learn more about their merit aid program. Is it more like the one at the University of Houston, or more like the one at Rice University? If you want to know even more details about aid, look up the Common Data Set for the college. Just do a web search for “[name of school] common data set”. Most colleges have this information available, and you can scroll through the spreadsheet to find all kinds of financial information. It takes some searching, but it’s there.

You can’t assume you will get merit aid. Whichever type of merit aid you’re thinking of, there’s no guarantee you’ll get any. If you meet certain qualifications to get automatic merit aid at a particular college (being a National Merit finalist, for example, or having really high standardized test scores), that doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll get that automatic aid from other schools. Each sets their own policies, and—as we’ve seen—not all of them even tell you what those policies are.

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Three quick questions with Albion College

Albion is a school I’d honestly never heard of. Flipping through my Fiske Guide, I think I assumed it’s an international school. But it’s a small liberal arts college in Michigan, and I’m glad I finally came across it and wish I’d payed more attention sooner. If you’re interested in a liberal arts college that wears its passions and purpose on its sleeve (and on a coin in its pocket), then read more.

For Three Quick Questions, I send the same three questions to admissions representatives at colleges all over the country, and then I hope to hear back from them. The three questions are meant to probe some of the things that make a school unique but that aren’t easily captured as a stat to go in a book or web search.

Today’s response is from Daria Bloomfield, Admission Counselor at Albion College in Albion, Michigan.

What is a course, tradition, program or event that is unique to Albion College?

Every single first-year student will step into our Goodrich Chapel on move-in day and go through the formal process of becoming an Albion student. During this event, our students are formally welcomed to the Albion community of scholars by the College’s president, faculty, and upperclassmen. Together they will learn the College hymn, walk across the altar to sign the student pledge, and verbally introduce themselves to our community. After this, they receive their Matriculation coin, which they are instructed to carry with them forever. We call this the Matriculation Ceremony, and it is a memory that all students will remember.

Naturally every college wants to recruit the perfect student--high grades, high test scores, involved in their community, leadership...everything. But what kinds of imperfect students tend to flourish at Albion?

That's a great question! We are a holistic review campus and Albion has a seat at the table for all students. Though the 'perfect student' can be an easy admit, the majority of our students are both perfect and imperfect. I think that a student who is willing to put in effort in the classroom, jump into the Albion community, and take advantage of the many individualized support opportunities on campus, will ultimately thrive.

When people come to visit Albion, what's a place off campus that you recommend they check out while they're there?

In our small town of Albion Michigan, there are a few places that you must stop at during your visit. The first is Albion Malleable Brewing Company. If you are looking for a great burger or some world-class Poutine, Malleable is your place! The second place is the Foundry Bakehouse and Deli. Our whole main street is filled with the smell of freshly baked desserts, you can't go wrong with that!

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